Game #131 Harbinger vs Deneghra2 (Gdańsk tournament game #3 – FINAL)

I played :

Protectorate Army – 75 / 75 points
[Theme] The Faithful Masses

(Harbinger 1) The Harbinger of Menoth [+24]
– Devout [9]
– Templar [15]
– Hierophant [0(3)]
Allegiant of the Order of the Fist [3]
Allegiant of the Order of the Fist [3]
Champion of the Order of the Wall [8]
Champion of the Order of the Wall [8]
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon [0(6)]
Reclaimer Gatekeeper [3]
Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord [4]
The Covenant of Menoth [0(4)]
Wrack [1]
Choir of Menoth (min) [4]
Horgenhold Forge Guard (min) [10]
– Attendant Priest [3]
Idrian Skirmishers (min) [9]
– Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [5]
Idrian Skirmishers (min) [9]
– Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [5]

VS

Cryx Army – 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Black Industries

[Deneghra 2] Wraith Witch Deneghra [+28]
– Deathjack [23]
– Inflictor [13]
– Nightmare [18]
– Nightwretch [0(7)]
– Nightwretch [0(7)]
– Stalker [8]
– Stalker [8]
– The Withershadow Combine [9]
Necrotech [2]
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [5]
Soul Trapper [1]
Warwitch Siren [4]
Warwitch Siren [4]
Cephalyx Overlords [8]

I’m going first.

Deployment :

Idrians prey at Stalkers.
Nightmare prey at Harbinger.

Champions and Idrians just ran forward.
Monks said +4 DEF.
Harbinger came to the safe place.
Devout and Vilmon ran b2b with her.
Choir said Shielding.

Deneghra cast Hellmouth (through arc node) at right Champion.
Dealing few dmg to him and 2 or 3 Idrians around.
Deathjack did the same with the left Champion.
One Stalker hid behind the building.
Another one jumped and started hitting left Champion.
But, nothing terrible happened.

End of 1st round :

Harbinger cast Guided Hand on left Idrians.
She also cast Crusader’s Call + FEAT.
I managed to destroy two Stalkers and one Arc Node.
One of the Monks came to contest the flag.
The Book came to the flag and said “no spell casting in my cmd”.

Cryx killed as many models as possible.
Inflictor and Deathjack tried to kill the Monk contesting the flag, but without success.
No one was able to contest my flag.

1-0 on the scenario.

End of 2nd round :

Harbinger cast Guided Hand on Dwarves and came to the safe place.
Templar and Champion took care of Deathjack.
Dwarves destroyed Nightmare.
Monk stayed in his position.
The Book stayed b2b with the flag and said again “no spell casting in my cmd”.

2-0 on the scenario.

My opponent had 4 minutes on the clock.
He started thinking about CK.
After checking and measuring few things, it was impossible.

I won the game by deathclock.

A few words after game :

  • The Book won this game.
    No spell casting “turned off” the DJ.
    Which helped me a lot.
  • I think I am playing Harbinger too much…
    Next reports will be from Warsaw tournament.
    I took with me Thyra and Feora3.

9 comments

  1. Great report again, looking forward to seeing some Feora3 lists that you’re using as well :-), are you planning to use the Thyra list you previously used or change it somehow? I would be intrigued seeing how she is in EI 🙂

    1. Thanks Andy !
      I played only 1 tournamnet with her.
      I think she will work in Guardian theme with Sanctifier.
      About Thyra, I changed my list a bit.
      I added Anastasia and second Temple Guards unit.
      I didn’t try her in exe theme, but she will be cool for sure with Errants.

  2. Hello Mateusz!
    Thx a lot again for your battle report ! Interresting as always !

    Harbinger is life! You will never play her too much

    Do you already think about the Cid ? If harbinger change from +24 to +28? 2 indictor seems perfect but lose 2 shield guard seems painfull , i’m not sure that it will be the good choice.
    What is your opinion about that?

    Do you still pair Durst with harbinger ?
    I have try this pairing in a 30 player’s tournament and have a doubt of what to play against Halley 2 with 1-2 Be.
    I took Durst in a practice game against her and we had conclued that this match is impossible for Durst.
    It’s too easy for Halley 2 to kill our support, then she can just tk/ dominate and take scenario.
    Maybe 8 indictor’s bubble will change this?
    Then in this tournament i took harbi vs halley2 and my opponent give me his BE for free then it was easy to handle the game. But against an experimented player it would be more difficult.
    Do you already try this match-up ?

    Finally I never found Durst good in any matchs. Had to play him against Zerkova/harkevich when i would prefer play harbi but I had to because of list lock.
    But I probably dont like enought this caster to be honest. Too slow and predictable.

    I see you had play a lot against grymkins, do you think harbi can hold entropic force from BE and accursed ? I had tryed it and founded the match hard even if we can play a bit around accursed.

    For you, with what harbinger struggle with?

    Finally do you think Cid can bring us some good options? I mean something to pair with harbinger who can handle cygnar’s gunline/grymkin?/ Skarre/maybe anamag?/ mortality caster.

    Thanks a lot

    1. Hi Nicolas!
      You are welcome, I should thank you for reading 🙂

      Haha true!
      I will never be tired of her (I hope so…).

      After CID, I will kick Templar and the Wrack.
      And I will add 2x Crusader.
      I tried this bg and it is perfect!
      For me, Devout is a must have with her, always.
      About 2 Indictors, I didn’t try it.
      I heard few ppl are playing them and it works fine for them.

      No, I’m not playing Durst anymore.
      I found HR in exe theme, is so nice to Harb pair.
      Cloud Wall and FEAT should be enough vs most Cygnar’s.
      About Indictor’s bubble, it will be great for sure 😉
      Harb vs Cygnar, hmm.. no.
      I never played it.
      I always choose second list vs Cygnars.
      I am always afraid of some leaps and high RAT shooting.

      I was dropping Durst vs Cygnar.
      It was his job and he was decent with it.
      High ARM and immune to spells (choir/Devout) was cool.
      In every other matchups Harb was just better.
      And you are right, he is super slow…

      About Grymkins, it really depends of Grymkin player.
      For sure, you must play widely.
      You can not keep whole your forces in Martyrdom range as usual.
      Harb vs Grymkin is playable, but as I said it depends of few things.
      And it is always a hard game.
      The terrain is also important.
      We prefer impas in the center of the table.
      Grymkin prefer forest for example.

      In my opinion, Harb has a problems with :

      – a lot of high accuracy models
      – grievous wound and some anty healing techs
      – auto hits, like electro leaps, trick shots

      I think HR can handle those thing you are writing.
      Cygnar’s gunline? He has clouds (I know, some of them ignore it)
      Grymkin? He should be fine, I need to test it. (I know, their heavies have rfp)
      Anamag/Skarre1. They are harb worst nightmere. I want and I will test HR vs them.
      I hope he can handle them 😉

      1. Thanks a lot for your answer !

        I have forgotten to ask you about double TEP. Do you know a “tech” with harbinger against them? They seems to be a nightmare for harbi so I chose to take Durst who was “fine”.

        What is yours HR list? The one you had already play ?

        What about vindictus ? You played him a few times, do he have a good place with harbinger ? Do you try him against cygnar ? Storm Strider, halley3 looks like a big problem. No?

        Thanks for your attention

        1. Sorry about my late answer, I was on holiday and just come back.

          2x TEP = nightmare.
          I did not play it by Harb, but I think it is a terrible matchup.

          My HR list I played on Polish Championship :

          Protectorate Army – 75 / 75 points
          [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction

          [High Reclaimer 1] The High Reclaimer [+32]
          – Crusader [10]
          – Crusader [10]
          – Dervish [7]
          – Dervish [7]
          Exemplar Warder Elias Gade [0(5)]
          Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist [4]
          Knights Exemplar Seneschal [5]
          Wrack [1]
          Choir of Menoth (min) [4]
          Exemplar Errants (max) [16]
          Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15]
          – Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [0(5)]
          Knights Exemplar [9]
          – Knights Exemplar Officer [5]
          Knights Exemplar [9]
          – Knights Exemplar Officer [5]

          I’m still thinking how to improve that list.
          But, it works almost perfectly for me.
          Sev0 will be great here for sure.

          Vind is OK to Harb pair.
          I played a lot Vind + Harb in tournaments.
          His FEAT is so good and helps a lot in scenario play.
          I played him few times vs Cygnar.
          H3 is a real problem and main reason I swap Vind to HR.
          HR in exe theme is too good not to take.

          All the best,
          Mateusz

    1. Haha me too! 😀
      But, the game was sooo good.
      If I remember well, you even started talking in a different language!
      Russian?

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